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> 1. How to stop ringing when incoming PSTN call is answered
> externally? (ftarz@mindspring.com)
> 2. Is Asterisk Support RFC-5168 (DHAVAL INDRODIYA)
> 3. Re: Dynamic hint from db? (Roland)
> 4. Asterisk and chat (Matteo Calorio)
> 5. Re: Rate sheet “normalization” (A E [Gmail])
> 6. Re: Rate sheet “normalization” (Alex Balashov)
> 7. Re: Rate sheet “normalization” (C. Savinovich)
> 8. Re: Rate sheet “normalization” (Leandro Dardini)
> 9. Re: Rate sheet “normalization” (C. Savinovich)
> 10. Re: Rate sheet “normalization” (Don Kelly)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:27:40 -0400
>From: “ftarz@mindspring.com”
>Subject: [asterisk-users] How to stop ringing when incoming PSTN call
> is answered externally?
>To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
>Message-ID: <4F72771C.70905@mindspring.com>
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>
>This is a hard one to explain. My home PSTN line is connected via an
>Openvox A400P card to my Asterisk 1.6.2.23 box which then routes
>incoming calls to my 2 SCCP extensions.
>
>The calls are routed just fine, but when a call is answered at one of
>the extensions or externally (by a home telephone) the asterisk
>extensions continue to ring one more time. Is there a way to have
>Asterisk drop an incoming PSTN call as soon as it’s answered?
>
>CLI output when receiving a PSTN call:
> Starting simple switch on ‘DAHDI/3-1’
> — Executing [s@from-pstn-3:1] Wait(“DAHDI/3-1”, “1”) in new stack
> — Executing [s@from-pstn-3:2] Verbose(“DAHDI/3-1”, “CALLERID is
>XXXXXXXXXX”) in new stack
>CALLERID is XXXXXXXXXX
> — Executing [s@from-pstn-3:3] Verbose(“DAHDI/3-1”, “Time is
>20120327-204307″) in new stack
>Time is 20120327-204307
> — Executing [s@from-pstn-3:4] Dial(“DAHDI/3-1”,
>”SCCP/1000&SCCP/1100,30″) in new stack
> — Called 1000
> — Called 1100
> — SCCP/1000-00000038 is ringing
> — SCCP/1100-00000039 is ringing
> == Spawn extension (from-pstn-3, s, 4) exited non-zero on ‘DAHDI/3-1’
> — Hungup ‘DAHDI/3-1’
>
>
>[from-pstn-3]
>exten => s,1,Wait(1)
>exten => s,n,Verbose(CALLERID is ${CALLERID(num)})
>exten => s,n,Verbose(Time is ${STRFTIME(${EPOCH},,%Y%m%d-%H%M%S)})
>;exten => s,n,Answer
>exten => s,n,Dial(SCCP/1000&SCCP/1100,30)
>exten => s,n,Hangup
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:43:20 +0530
>From: DHAVAL INDRODIYA
>Subject: [asterisk-users] Is Asterisk Support RFC-5168
>To: Asterisk Users Mailing List – Non-Commercial Discussion
>
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>Hi All,
>
>i am working on video setup within asterisk my simple question is asterisk
>support RFC-5168.
>
>if yes then in which version ?
>
>thanks
>Dhaval
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>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:19:12 +0200
>From: Roland
>Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Dynamic hint from db?
>To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
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>I’ll answer my own question for the archives… although my question maybe
>was just too obvious 😉
>
>The problem was, that I had put this piece of Dialplan in my
>extensions.conf like this:
>
>[StumpelLocal]
>exten => _ZXX!,hint,${SIP_BYEXT(${EXTEN},${CONTEXT})}
>exten => _ZXX!,1,Verbose(3, Search extension ${EXTEN} in context
>${CONTEXT})
> same => n,Set(SIP=${SIP_BYEXT(${EXTEN},${CONTEXT})})
> same => n,GotoIf(${SIP}?:notFound)
> same => n,SIPAddHeader(Alert-Info: internal)
> same => n,Dial(${SIP})
> same => n(notFound),Playback(you-dialed-wrong-number)
> same => n,Hangup
>
>
>[StumpelZwaag]
>include => StumpelLocal
>
>I registered my SIP accounts in the database with context StumpelZwaag. But
>of course the hints aren’t being executed from StumpelZwaag, but probably
>from StumpelLocal (if they have a contect at all??), the lookup failed. So
>I changed the dynamic hint to:
>
>exten => _ZXX!,hint,${SIP_BYEXT(${EXTEN},StumpelZwaag)}
>exten => _ZXX!,1,Verbose(3, Search extension ${EXTEN} in context
>${CONTEXT})
> same => n,Set(SIP=${SIP_BYEXT(${EXTEN},${CONTEXT})})
> same => n,GotoIf(${SIP}?:notFound)
> same => n,SIPAddHeader(Alert-Info: internal)
> same => n,Dial(${SIP})
> same => n(notFound),Playback(you-dialed-wrong-number)
> same => n,Hangup
>
>I hardcoded the context, so now it works.
>
>Also I found that “core show hints” on the CLI, also show the hints that
>were creating through this dynamic hint. So you will see the actual list of
>hints. At first I thought the dynamic hint would only be shown as
> _ZXX!@StumpelLocal : ${SIP_BYEXT(${EXTEN}
>State:Unavailable Watchers 0
>
>This is not the case, so you can test if your dynamic hint is working
>correctly by checking this table.
>
>Also my phone seems to be rather slow in processing the hint changes… so
>it may take a few minutes before the changes take effect.
>
>
>
>
>On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Roland wrote:
>
>> I would like to fetch my extensions from the database. I created a dynamic
>> hint, but doesn’t seem to work. The BLF on my phone doesn’t change when the
>> state of the extension changed.
>>
>> This is in my dialplan:
>>
>> exten => _ZXX!,hint,${SIP_BYEXT(${EXTEN},${CONTEXT})}
>> exten => _ZXX!,1,Verbose(3, Search extension ${EXTEN} in context
>> ${CONTEXT})
>> same => n,Set(SIP=${SIP_BYEXT(${EXTEN},${CONTEXT})})
>> same => n,GotoIf(${SIP}?:notFound)
>> same => n,SIPAddHeader(Alert-Info: internal)
>> same => n,Dial(${SIP})
>> same => n(notFound),Playback(you-dialed-wrong-number)
>> same => n,Hangup
>>
>> Is something like this possible?
>>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:49:01 +0200
>From: Matteo Calorio
>Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and chat
>To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
>Message-ID: <201203281149.02043.matteo.calorio@linux.ors-tech.it>
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>
>Hello,
>
>
>I have a working Asterisk installation, but I would like to add chat between
>users; I have also a working Ejabberd installation and with Asterisk’s
>jabber.conf file I can make my two systems communicate.
>
>What I can’t do is to link together the two accounts, the asterisk extension
>and the ejabberd account for every user.
>
>The final effect I would like is that a user, simply putting “myuser@pbx” and
>”mypass” in his softphone (Jitsi in my case) would get both voice and text
>messages enabled with (apparently) a single account.
>
>It’s a little difficult to explain for me, but I subscribed an account on
>ippi.fr and so did some friends of mine: well, without doing anything else we
>have both voice and chat.
>
>
>Bye,
> Matteo
>
>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:41:57 -0400
>From: “A E [Gmail]”
>Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet “normalization”
>To: Asterisk Users Mailing List – Non-Commercial Discussion
>
>Message-ID:
>
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>On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Markus wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> this question is not Asterisk specific, but since there are so many
>> experts present on this list, maybe its OK to ask anyways.
>>
>> I’m having a hard time “normalizing” rate sheets from different providers.
>> What I mean with this: the goal is to always get the cheapest rate for a
>> given destination. What I would like to do is throw like 10 rate sheets
>> from different providers together and as output get a single rate sheet
>> with only the cheapest rates. However, some providers are listing a
>> country, lets say Germany, as code “49” with a specific rate, and another
>> provider will list each city individually, and each code separately, e.g.
>> Berlin “4930”, Hamburg “4940” etc., and probably different cities have
>> different rates as well. Now, if the “49” route of the first provider is
>> cheaper, my system (a2billing) will still use the more expensive “4930”
>> code because it is more specific.
>>
>> I’m looking for some awesome, smart tool that will automatically
>> “normalize” all these code differences and output a clean ratesheet with
>> only the cheapest rates.
>>
>> Does such a thing exist? I wonder how everyone else is “normalizing” their
>> different rate sheets. With a homebrewn script?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>Markus,
>
>you’re not the first person and certainly not the last person who’s ever
>asked about this. I had tried this on several mailing lists a little while
>ago. A tool that could handle 10 or maybe even 5 provider rate-sheets all
>of which can potentially completely differ in formats from each other. Even
>worse are the rate update sheets from each provider which are many a times
>different from the initial rate sheets that the provider may have given you
>and then again they will differ from the rate updates from the remaining 4
>providers you’ve just painstakingly inserted into your DB.
>
>Given the popularity of Asterisk and other popular OSS based telephony
>platforms with several successful businesses running 100s of millions of
>minutes, you’d think at least a few have sorted this problem out. But I
>believe those who have, never respond to these emails as it took them quite
>a bit of effort to create such a tool and aren’t willing to just give it
>away.
>
>Just what I have observed (and was even blatantly told by someone on some
>mailing list, can’t remember exactly)
>
>You may have to advertise in the commercial / business list or offer a
>bounty. There are several commercial solutions available but I think they
>all come as a “feature” of a larger billing/rating/routing platform
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>Message: 6
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:00:59 -0400
>From: Alex Balashov
>Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet “normalization”
>To: Asterisk Users Mailing List – Non-Commercial Discussion
>
>Message-ID:
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”utf-8″
>
>We solve this problem for our customers all the time, in various situationally-specific ways. But yes, we are not really in a position to genericise it and give it away. It’s not because we are greedy. The time and resources just aren’t there.
>
>–
>Alex Balashov – Principal
>Evariste Systems LLC
>235 E Ponce de Leon Ave
>Suite 106
>Atlanta, GA 30030
>Tel: +1-678-954-0670
>Fax: +1-404-961-1892
>Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com
>
>”A E [Gmail]” wrote:
>
>>On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Markus wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> this question is not Asterisk specific, but since there are so many
>>> experts present on this list, maybe its OK to ask anyways.
>>>
>>> I’m having a hard time “normalizing” rate sheets from different providers.
>>> What I mean with this: the goal is to always get the cheapest rate for a
>>> given destination. What I would like to do is throw like 10 rate sheets
>>> from different providers together and as output get a single rate sheet
>>> with only the cheapest rates. However, some providers are listing a
>>> country, lets say Germany, as code “49” with a specific rate, and another
>>> provider will list each city individually, and each code separately, e.g.
>>> Berlin “4930”, Hamburg “4940” etc., and probably different cities have
>>> different rates as well. Now, if the “49” route of the first provider is
>>> cheaper, my system (a2billing) will still use the more expensive “4930”
>>> code because it is more specific.
>>>
>>> I’m looking for some awesome, smart tool that will automatically
>>> “normalize” all these code differences and output a clean ratesheet with
>>> only the cheapest rates.
>>>
>>> Does such a thing exist? I wonder how everyone else is “normalizing” their
>>> different rate sheets. With a homebrewn script?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>Markus,
>>
>>you’re not the first person and certainly not the last person who’s ever
>>asked about this. I had tried this on several mailing lists a little while
>>ago. A tool that could handle 10 or maybe even 5 provider rate-sheets all
>>of which can potentially completely differ in formats from each other. Even
>>worse are the rate update sheets from each provider which are many a times
>>different from the initial rate sheets that the provider may have given you
>>and then again they will differ from the rate updates from the remaining 4
>>providers you’ve just painstakingly inserted into your DB.
>>
>>Given the popularity of Asterisk and other popular OSS based telephony
>>platforms with several successful businesses running 100s of millions of
>>minutes, you’d think at least a few have sorted this problem out. But I
>>believe those who have, never respond to these emails as it took them quite
>>a bit of effort to create such a tool and aren’t willing to just give it
>>away.
>>
>>Just what I have observed (and was even blatantly told by someone on some
>>mailing list, can’t remember exactly)
>>
>>You may have to advertise in the commercial / business list or offer a
>>bounty. There are several commercial solutions available but I think they
>>all come as a “feature” of a larger billing/rating/routing platform
>>
>>–
>>_____________________________________________________________________
>>– Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com
>>New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
>> http://www.asterisk.org/hello
>>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:27:03 -0700
>From: “C. Savinovich”
>Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet “normalization”
>To: “Asterisk Users Mailing List – Non-Commercial Discussion”
>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:38:03 +0200
>From: Leandro Dardini
>Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet “normalization”
>To: Asterisk Users Mailing List – Non-Commercial Discussion
>
>Message-ID:
>
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>Continuing with the top post…
>
>I believe in open source philosophy. A software or a list of telephone
>prefix makes no difference. If you want to make such list open source,
>you’ll be sure somebody will contribute to maintain it update and all will
>benefit from it.
>
>Leandro
>
>2012/3/28 C. Savinovich
>
>>
>> I really don’t think it is fair for anyone to give out such work for
>> free. Unfortunately, many people are used to asking for free software
>> solutions for all their problems. Whatever happened to paying for someone
>> else’s time and effort?
>>
>>
>> Christian Savinovich
>> *VoIP & Telephony Consultant*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ——– Original Message ——–
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet “normalization”
>> From: Alex Balashov
>> Date: Wed, March 28, 2012 10:00 am
>> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List – Non-Commercial Discussion
>>
>>
>> We solve this problem for our customers all the time, in various
>> situationally-specific ways. But yes, we are not really in a position to
>> genericise it and give it away. It’s not because we are greedy. The time
>> and resources just aren’t there.
>>
>> —
>> Alex Balashov – Principal
>> Evariste Systems LLC
>> 235 E Ponce de Leon Ave
>> Suite 106
>> Atlanta, GA 30030
>> Tel: +1-678-954-0670
>> Fax: +1-404-961-1892
>> Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com
>>
>> “A E [Gmail]” wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Markus wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> this question is not Asterisk specific, but since there are so many
>>> experts present on this list, maybe its OK to ask anyways.
>>>
>>> I’m having a hard time “normalizing” rate sheets from different
>>> providers. What I mean with this: the goal is to always get the cheapest
>>> rate for a given destination. What I would like to do is throw like 10 rate
>>> sheets from different providers together and as output get a single rate
>>> sheet with only the cheapest rates. However, some providers are listing a
>>> country, lets say Germany, as code “49” with a specific rate, and another
>>> provider will list each city individually, and each code separately, e.g.
>>> Berlin “4930”, Hamburg “4940” etc., and probably different cities have
>>> different rates as well. Now, if the “49” route of the first provider is
>>> cheaper, my system (a2billing) will still use the more expensive “4930”
>>> code because it is more specific.
>>>
>>> I’m looking for some awesome, smart tool that will automatically
>>> “normalize” all these code differences and output a clean ratesheet with
>>> only the cheapest rates.
>>>
>>> Does such a thing exist? I wonder how everyone else is “normalizing”
>>> their different rate sheets. With a homebrewn script?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>> Markus,
>>
>> you’re not the first person and certainly not the last person who’s ever
>> asked about this. I had tried this on several mailing lists a little while
>> ago. A tool that could handle 10 or maybe even 5 provider rate-sheets all
>> of which can potentially completely differ in formats from each other. Even
>> worse are the rate update sheets from each provider which are many a times
>> different from the initial rate sheets that the provider may have given you
>> and then again they will differ from the rate updates from the remaining 4
>> providers you’ve just painstakingly inserted into your DB.
>>
>> Given the popularity of Asterisk and other popular OSS based telephony
>> platforms with several successful businesses running 100s of millions of
>> minutes, you’d think at least a few have sorted this problem out. But I
>> believe those who have, never respond to these emails as it took them quite
>> a bit of effort to create such a tool and aren’t willing to just give it
>> away.
>>
>> Just what I have observed (and was even blatantly told by someone on some
>> mailing list, can’t remember exactly)
>>
>> You may have to advertise in the commercial / business list or offer a
>> bounty. There are several commercial solutions available but I think they
>> all come as a “feature” of a larger billing/rating/routing platform
>>
>> ——————————
>> —
>> _____________________________________________________________________
>> — Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com
>> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
>> http://www.asterisk.org/hello
>>
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>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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>>
>> —
>> _____________________________________________________________________
>> — Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com
>> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
>> http://www.asterisk.org/hello
>>
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>Message: 9
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:58:29 -0700
>From: “C. Savinovich”
>Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet “normalization”
>To: “Asterisk Users Mailing List – Non-Commercial Discussion”
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>Message: 10
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:28:24 -0500
>From: “Don Kelly”
>Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet “normalization”
>To: “‘Asterisk Users Mailing List – Non-Commercial Discussion'”
>
>Message-ID: <01f301cd0cff$d98a84a0$8c9f8de0$@donkelly.biz>
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>Adding to the top-posted discussion of doing this for free?
>
>
>
>A one-time rate sheet is of no value. This is something that would need constant updating.
>
>
>
>Think about the open source projects that provided something useful and were improved by the community for a couple years, then became static?continuing to do what they did, but not receiving any more support from the community. They may continue to be of value, even though they don?t improve.
>
>
>
>If the same thing happened with the rate sheet, it would quickly become not only valueless, but dangerous to rely on?and there would likely be no free replacement to enable you to stay in business.
>
>–Don
>
>Don Kelly
>
>PCF Corp
>People Come First
>651 842-1000
>651 842-1001 fax
>
>From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of C. Savinovich
>Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:58 AM
>To: Asterisk Users Mailing List – Non-Commercial Discussion
>Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet “normalization”
>
>
>
>
>
>Sure someone will benefit from it. But what about all those others who are financially affected by it? I certainly do not think that someone necessarily always contributes. It ultimately affects our economy, because money doesn’t circulate, and many people who are in a perfect position to disburse money just don’t do it. It affects an entire industry (the software industry) that could flourish and create even better products thanks to a competition that could exists if there were financial rewards. Ultimately, free software (not open source) affects the little guy and benefits the big guys. Gone are the days when a talented programmer could create a program and make a million dollars from his basement with his talent. If your company name is not Google, if you don’t do a tap and a dance to an investor, then you got no chance, as opposed to the days when you could just sell your own version of Vicidial and make money for a year.
>
>
>
>But rather than discussing about the pros and cons of open source, which is here to stay, I would think that some people are doomed to fail if they think they can run a business entirely on free rides. The goal of Open Source is to benefit from sharing and share ahead, but unfortunately a segment of the market has gotten to the point that it only takes but doesn’t give back.
>
>
>
>Christian Savinovich
>
>VoIP & Telephony Consultant
>
>646-982-3572
>
>
>
>
>
>——– Original Message ——–
>Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet “normalization”
>From: Leandro Dardini
>Date: Wed, March 28, 2012 10:38 am
>To: Asterisk Users Mailing List – Non-Commercial Discussion
>
>
>Continuing with the top post…
>
>
>
>I believe in open source philosophy. A software or a list of telephone prefix makes no difference. If you want to make such list open source, you’ll be sure somebody will contribute to maintain it update and all will benefit from it.
>
>
>
>Leandro
>
>2012/3/28 C. Savinovich
>
>
>
>I really don’t think it is fair for anyone to give out such work for free. Unfortunately, many people are used to asking for free software solutions for all their problems. Whatever happened to paying for someone else’s time and effort?
>
>
>
>
>
>Christian Savinovich
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>VoIP & Telephony Consultant
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>——– Original Message ——–
>Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet “normalization”
>From: Alex Balashov
>Date: Wed, March 28, 2012 10:00 am
>To: Asterisk Users Mailing List – Non-Commercial Discussion
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>We solve this problem for our customers all the time, in various situationally-specific ways. But yes, we are not really in a position to genericise it and give it away. It’s not because we are greedy. The time and resources just aren’t there.
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>Alex Balashov – Principal
>Evariste Systems LLC
>235 E Ponce de Leon Ave
>Suite 106
>Atlanta, GA 30030
>Tel: +1-678-954-0670
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